Seriously cool networking device...

[Ninjahedge]

This MoCA standard seems very cool:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122243

$180 is a bit high for 2 stations, but hooking this up to the coax (if I can at the same time as getting FiOS) would be really neat. I am already running a wire over to one place (with all the entertainment stuff). It would be handy to use a solid cable to transfer signal rather than wireless everything......

[profzoom]

nice, I have been looking for something like this. Thanks for finding it for me

[dragonash]

oh, so this would actually be pretty cool in a city environment where you already have cable wires run through the walls and cant damage the walls to snake more in (and you dont want a wireless connection)

So just use the existing coax for the network... pretty neat.

[Ninjahedge]

I heard about it somewhere and decided to take a look.

PZ, let us know if you get a set and how it works out for you, also what provider setup you have would be handy too (FiOS, Cable....).

If you don't, well, still let us know so we don't sit here waiting!!! ;)

[Wes]

Oh, that looks good! Can you connect multiple of these units like the Powerline Ethernet do?

[c3po]

ok so let me get this straight. you plug this in to a coaxial and then what? i understand that it turns the coax into a network. so instead of snaking a cat 5 to say the living room to hook up to a tivo i can connect this to a coaxial and then connect the tivo to this device via cat 5 and it will be on the network?

[Wes]

from what I understand is that the box has both cat 5 and coax output. On the Tivo side, you can connect directly via the coax out and you have a cat 5 port for your network as well.

EDIT: Correction! From reading what NJ wrote, I think once you use the coax for network, you can't use it for TV signal for Tivo any more.

EDIT once again: I just looked at the pictures, and the box has 2 coax connectors. So it should be able to carry both TV signal and network signal like I first thought.

[c3po]

so i could hook up a wireless router in the living room via coax?

[Wes]

Yes

[Ninjahedge]

I was just wondering if the coax would still be able to carry the TV signal with FiOS....

The thing is, guys like Verizon rarely tell you if this is possible because they want to sell you their own solutions, so hooking up to my network might be a colossal PITA!!! (I have a feeling FiOS sends certain data along the coax as well as the TV signal, the key here would be what frequencies they use and if they cause any interference....)

[Wes]

If you use their settop box, you'll need those extra signal from the FIOS coax line. I don't. I use my own Tivo. I think it should work fine for us.

[Ninjahedge]

:(

Lucky bastich!!!!


Actually, I was just wondering about piggybacking.I have the line coming in from FiOS, it gets converted and placed on a coax. This coax goes out to the modem and the set top boxes. It is carying a digital signal to begin with. What I am wondering is if, just like WiFi, this cable modem uses a different set of frequencies to transmit at, therefore not interfering with the main datastream. If it DOES, then it will work for me too.

It seems to make sens, and would only be limited by the maximum throughput available for that cable coax line. Seeing how there are much faster speeds available on FiOS, while still having full broadcast capablilty, I believe there is still some "room" left in the wire to handle some more signal.....

I don't know though, an I dno't think I would get an easy answer from Verizon. Although it MIGHT be to their interest to market this themselves....but whatever.

[Dr. Death]

FiOS uses MOCA also, so it may not be compatible. However if you are using coax cable that is not on the FiOS MOCA network, it should work.

[Wes]

We have a box outside the box with the fiber comes in and the output ports are phone jack, Coax port, and Ethernet ports. I would guess that the Coax line is just pure TV signal.

[Ninjahedge]

DD - Yeah, I have teh place wired for TWICE the cable!!!!! ;) (j/k)

Wes - I don't know, I will have to check and see if they have a "TV" out on the main box and a seperate "Modem" out on any of these guys. I don't think there are....


I think it would be very handy at my place, and enable me to re-arrane things, but the way that teh FiOS STB's have things like "widgets", I really do not know....

[Dr. Death]

Well, I meant if you have a room where the cable is going that will not have a STB and you can isolate it from the FiOS network. As far as RUNNING cable goes, Cat5e or Cat6 is cheaper than good quality coax.

[Zaphod]

We have a box outside the box with the fiber comes in and the output ports are phone jack, Coax port, and Ethernet ports. I would guess that the Coax line is just pure TV signal.

my coax carries everything, tv, internet, phone (although i don't subscribe the bundled phone service). comes in the house, connects to the verizon router which i have connected to all the computers. i think it's the cablecards in the tivo that filter out internet and phone traffic (or the verizon stb if that's what you're using).

for a while i wanted to split the connection so i would have the internet coming from the ethernet jack and the tv & phone coming from the coax. that way i could use whatever router i wanted (i really didn't like the actiontec router). but they've improved the firmware enough now that i don't care so much. but i found out i would have to call verizon, have them flip a switch, then buy some parts... i'm too lazy for all that! lol oh yeah, and i've been BAS lately.

[Wes]

I believe lot of new implementation are like that. Instead of a fiber going to your house, it's just a coax, like in your case. Then, they give you a cheapy actiontec router to split the coax into tv, internet, and phone.

Our install was like the first 2 towns in the entire NY. We have a big 1 foot by 1.5 foot box with a fiber going in and all the different ports coming out. It also have a separate power supply with a battery backup unit connected to it. I'm sure they don't want to do that for each house hold any more.

[Ninjahedge]

I have a 1'x1.5'x3" white box attached to the wall inside the bedroom.

There are two phone jacks on it (you can see the 4 wire standard phone line coming up to it with two lines attached to one of the jacks).

There are also several coax ports on the bottom. They run to a splitter and go all over the house, but I have to see if they go to the router first or not. I do not think they need the router as the first connection to force the TV Coax through it as well (I will have to see). I THINK the only requirement on the original Cablevision one was that the modem had to be before any STB or other piece of AV equipment....

If these things would work simply by splitting before it reached a STB, it might be worth looking into.

the only problem is, the more you split, the more you lose.....